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obama every morning he needs to wake up and try to go with before the fall. you won the election. you know it. the republicans know it. and you are entitled to certain things. but if you repeat what you did on monday which was a victory lap in the cusp of the conclusion of negotiations where you rub the republicans' nose in the fact that you force them to raise the rates and then you say you think you have spending afterwards, you are not going to get any spending cuts afterwards. he is oaf his own cliff. what he needs to remember is one day he will need the republicans, to be a run on the dollar or crisis in foreign affairs, he has to make sure that he hasn't so humiliated and alienated them that they will not stand with him. he is the president of the country. he has to remember that, not just the miles per hour liberals or the american democrats. >> bret: do you think there is regret that speaker boehner didn't take whatever the big deal offer was from president obama and the white house in this situation? that he instead, you know, went to plan "b" scenario and kind of went hi
obama every morning he needs to wake up and try to go with before the fall. you won the election. you know it. the republicans know it. and you are entitled to certain things. but if you repeat what you did on monday which was a victory lap in the cusp of the conclusion of negotiations where you rub the republicans' nose in the fact that you force them to raise the rates and then you say you think you have spending afterwards, you are not going to get any spending cuts afterwards. he is oaf his...
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i'm going to say michelle obama. not only because her husband won, because she doesn't have to campaign again which she hates. because she sailed through the election with sky high ratings. and because now she can actually do some of the bigger stuff about obesity, the biggest public health challenge in this country, frankly the western world. she can now do what she wants. >> i'm going with claire mccaskill. not just because she won her race -- thank you todd akin -- but because she showed the face of what. i think claire mccaskill really came out winning. >> jonathan? >> i would say that the 47% were the winners of this election. because they told mitt romney and the republican party to stuff it. they got off their lazy, unprincipled, immoral behinds and got out there and voted for president obama. >> krystal? >> i got to go with the obvious one, president obama. not just because he won and won convincingly, his policies have been vindicated, health care has been upheld, his approval rating is rising. he's likely t
i'm going to say michelle obama. not only because her husband won, because she doesn't have to campaign again which she hates. because she sailed through the election with sky high ratings. and because now she can actually do some of the bigger stuff about obesity, the biggest public health challenge in this country, frankly the western world. she can now do what she wants. >> i'm going with claire mccaskill. not just because she won her race -- thank you todd akin -- but because she...
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so that credit goes to president obama. biggest winner of 2012 for me. karen finny. >> i'm going with the home team and say msnbc because we kicked that other network. >> don't even try to get the ipad. she gets the ipad. >> you previewed mine. i was going to say nate silver. because i think math was a huge winner this year. he looked at the numbers and polls properly. he understood the relative weight of gallup and better polls. the people who understood that if 28% of the electorate was going to be minority and if the president could pull 80% of that electorate he could win. and nate silver understand that for a very long time. you were quoting him every night on this show. he's a big winner. >> ari, the biggest winner of 2012. >> i want to pick up on joy's flavor. you put her on blast tonight for being corny. and i'm going to be corny with you now. >> okay. join me. >> and say government intervention in our economy was the biggest winner. barack obama came into office after tremendous elite failure, fundamental distrust of what our government can do.
so that credit goes to president obama. biggest winner of 2012 for me. karen finny. >> i'm going with the home team and say msnbc because we kicked that other network. >> don't even try to get the ipad. she gets the ipad. >> you previewed mine. i was going to say nate silver. because i think math was a huge winner this year. he looked at the numbers and polls properly. he understood the relative weight of gallup and better polls. the people who understood that if 28% of the...
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i wonder what this country's going to come to in the next election. i am worried about the democrat and republican party. we do not know what the changes would be. another thing is the billions of dollars they are spending overseas trying to fight the war over there. they are financing billions, i believe to understood, it is that expensive. lives are being lost. i know it sounds reasonable to some people. you take people that do not care to die, like a lot of those suicide bombers, you cannot get rid of all of the terrorists. they are a country that is mixed up. i am concerned for the world. poor people do not seem to get a chance. the wealthy need another million when we need another dollar. host: times in arkansas. a reporter with politico -- john in kansas, republican. caller: hi, my comment is, i hope they pass the proposal so they can pass a sensible bill that addresses our national debt, and other legitimate concerns. and, we as citizens of america, and need to be responsible and we need to e-mail our president and congressman to tell them to n
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looks like president obama had the big clear winner. now everybody is talking about how great a job joe biden is doing. >> i'll tell you, joe biden and mitch mcconnel have served today for three decades. they know each other well. it was a good call to have the two of them negotiating. obviously the president was involved. the big thing about this is this was a big vote. it was 89-8. you had bipartisan support for this. the republicans wanted the senate to take the lead. they took the lead. they sent it to the house and they said they'd have a vote on it. my hope is they have a clean vote on a clean bill. then let the chips fall where they may. it is difficult for the republicans with canter going over the edge and it's tough. i mean is that's what's going on with john boehner? is he looking over his shoulders? we'll see. >> great question. is this a canter/john boehner showdown? >> may well be. canter has a bright future and he's playing smartly. he can do anything he wants after this. >> peter, i guess i'm curious, how does the senate
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an opportunity to nail president obama on benghazi and bring it home and win an election and he chose not to. he chose to play it safe. to me, that was the turning point. he got bad advice. somebody said you know what? don't do this. or he had knowledge of what was going on, because he was given the knowledge by the white house so he felt compelled to keep it secret. the other thing, too, his son said mitt didn't want to be president. that is tragic to me. it might have meant that mitt would have been a good president. >> juan: do you think it's true? >> greg: people who don't want to be president the end to be good president -- tend to be good presidents. >> andrea: washington turned down power of king. >> eric: i disagree. it's such a demanding job -- >> greg: but to say, conservatives by nature do not like government. natural inclination not to want to be in charge. >> eric: let me add something to the story. mitt romney blowing it in the last debate, candy crowley. second? second. misinformed, oh, yeah, president obama mentioned it. he wasn't prepared. >> he held back. >> eric: th
an opportunity to nail president obama on benghazi and bring it home and win an election and he chose not to. he chose to play it safe. to me, that was the turning point. he got bad advice. somebody said you know what? don't do this. or he had knowledge of what was going on, because he was given the knowledge by the white house so he felt compelled to keep it secret. the other thing, too, his son said mitt didn't want to be president. that is tragic to me. it might have meant that mitt would...
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by this election, it was not. however, however, secularism is certainly eroding traditional power, no question about it. those americans who attend religious services at least once a week, voted for romney, 59-39. the religious is on at decline. despite the presidential controversial insistence that some catholic entities provide birth control and after-pills, catholics supported obama 50-48. down from 2008, but still a surprise to some. only about 30% of american catholics now attend weekly mass. you can see the impact of creeping secularism on the religious vote. on paper the stats look hopeless for traditional americans, however, it will take a very special politician to do that. by the way, mitt romney didn't try to marginlize secularism, it's a mistake. the key question going forward is the movement good for american, no matter their ethnic condition, the answer is no, three vivid. secular progressive champion do your own thing philosophy, and the public school system adopted that philosophy and that's now wr
by this election, it was not. however, however, secularism is certainly eroding traditional power, no question about it. those americans who attend religious services at least once a week, voted for romney, 59-39. the religious is on at decline. despite the presidential controversial insistence that some catholic entities provide birth control and after-pills, catholics supported obama 50-48. down from 2008, but still a surprise to some. only about 30% of american catholics now attend weekly...
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caller: i helped barack obama become elected. i notice the nation is not behind him. they are not making the money that people at the top are making. when the people at the top try to negotiate will happen for the people at the bottom, there will be a constant setback of growth. when you have politicians not taking care of business, you have more outgrowth then you have income. right now our country has more outgrowth then income. if you don't have that overhead, you end up losing what you have. host: george zornick. guest: a lot of people like to talk about world aid. you could look at the defense budget. many liberals have tried to do that. it appears the defense sequester will be avoided. it is kind of tricky. it is an across-the-board cut. you have the same amount coming out there as you do in these ridiculous weapons systems. there are a lot of liberals that like to keep that number we appropriate or those cuts are going. "let's target the cuts say little bit." host: referring to round two after the senate approved a short-term measure to avoid tax hikes. they de
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with obama it's like a mandate, with the taxing the wealthiest americans, if he's elected which by a landslide, maybe they need to catch up and form and modernize the party. >> reporter: how much does the political posturing, how is that to watch this churn day after day for the past several days? >> it's rough. i was watching yesterday when the president spoke, hoping maybe they had come to some point. hearing him say we're close but not there yet, it's like these are things that directly affect americans and if this is your job, this in is why we elect you, it's waiting each day, it's kind of like -- it's cliff, though cliff is a misleading term it is a good term. it's like jumping over, waiting for something to kind of hit us, that really shouldn't be there at all. >> reporter: thanks for your thoughts. one other person i talked with had one more thought saying it's a shame na the u.s. economy is being held hostage by the u.s. congress. something to think about as we continue our new year's day. >> it was fascinating to hear that young woman's point of view there. obviously studen
with obama it's like a mandate, with the taxing the wealthiest americans, if he's elected which by a landslide, maybe they need to catch up and form and modernize the party. >> reporter: how much does the political posturing, how is that to watch this churn day after day for the past several days? >> it's rough. i was watching yesterday when the president spoke, hoping maybe they had come to some point. hearing him say we're close but not there yet, it's like these are things that...
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democrats and president obama's re-election, the president said one of the first things i want to do in january is immigration. let's tackle that. there was a lot of disappointment among especially the latino community about the president's push on that. in the first term he was dealing with other things. he said we'll do that in january. then you had this terrible situation in sandy hook elementary school in connecticut. the president said one of the first things i want to do in january, i'm going to push on gun control. vice president biden is heading this commission and is supposed to come back with recommendations. yet you see vice president biden on the hill yesterday dealing with the fiscal cliff. if you're going to have two more months of positioning on the fiscal cliff, how deep does the president go on that or does he go on immigration or gun control or energy which he said yesterday is another priority in his state of the union speech and really push? because the white house has to prioritize and right now the economy continues to be the number one priority for the foreseea
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richard, start with you, president obama, john boehner, winner or loser? >> i think both of them are winners for different reasons. the president won. obviously showed winning an election and staying on message is a winning strategy. he got republicans to budge on this decades long notion somehow or other lifting tax rates was going to be ruin news for the economy. i think we'll see that it's not. he got a lot of other provisions clean energy, tuition credits, senator for low income people. unemployment benefits extended that were on the line. i think john boehner is actually a winner too and here's why. he was not forced at end of the day to make his members walk the plank because the vote is in 2013. and not 2012. the, you know, the grow very norquist pledge could be observed. having their members vote to reduce rates. you heard senator mcconnell talk about for 98% of the people. that was something frankly not crystal clear even as a week ago whether boehner could make that stick. so i think he gets a good outcome here and kind of keeps his people in lin
richard, start with you, president obama, john boehner, winner or loser? >> i think both of them are winners for different reasons. the president won. obviously showed winning an election and staying on message is a winning strategy. he got republicans to budge on this decades long notion somehow or other lifting tax rates was going to be ruin news for the economy. i think we'll see that it's not. he got a lot of other provisions clean energy, tuition credits, senator for low income...
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caller: i helped barack obama become elected. i notice the nation is not behind him. they are not making the money that people at the top are making. when the people at the top try to negotiate will happen for the people at the bottom, there will be a constant setback of growth . when you have politicians not taking care of business, you have more outgrowth then you have in ccome. right now our country has more outgrowth then in come. if you don't have that overhead, you end up losing what you have. host: george zornick. guest: a lot of people like to talk about world aid. you could look at the defense budget. many liberals have tried to do that. it appears the defense sequester will be avoided. it is kind of tricky. it is an across-the-board cut. you have the same amount coming out there as you do in these ridiculous weapons systems. there are a lot of liberals that like to keep that number we appropriate or those cuts are going. "let's target the cuts say little bit." host: referring to round two after the senate approved a short-term measure to avoid tax hikes. the
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now she doesn't have to worry about re-election. this is her year to shine. >> she's free. >> she's freed up a little and i'm excited to do what she'll do with the newfound freedom. >> we always talk about second terms for presidents but for the first spouses they're not running for anything unless you're hillary clinton. >> modern first spouse. things are different over the past two or three presidencys from the historical perspective of a first lady. she's swomeone who has a chance to make a difference. >> she's clear she's not a political candidate like hillary clinton thought she might be but not going to be quiet like laura bush was. she has a lot to offer and talk about. >> she's also very young, you know, she still has a lot to do and next chapters in her life. >> as are you, anna navarro in miami, happy new year to you and hillary. >>> the senate passing the bill to fend off the fiscal cliff. will the house follow suit? we'll ask sheila bair if it's the right deal for the country and secretary of state hillary clinton is hos
now she doesn't have to worry about re-election. this is her year to shine. >> she's free. >> she's freed up a little and i'm excited to do what she'll do with the newfound freedom. >> we always talk about second terms for presidents but for the first spouses they're not running for anything unless you're hillary clinton. >> modern first spouse. things are different over the past two or three presidencys from the historical perspective of a first lady. she's swomeone who...
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. >>> a week later, hosted democrat convention and president obama invites president biden for re-election. >>> on september 11th, gunman killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three others. >> they had a mission and they believed in it. they knew the danger and they accepted it. >> u.s. ambassador to the un susan rice used talking points to tie the violence over an american made antiislam film. the attack later linked to terrorism and some accused the administration of covering up the truth. though there's no evidence of that. >>> president obama and governor mitt romney squared off in three debates. joe biden and paul ryan came out swinging. >>> renew his calls for drawing a red line on iran's nuclear program. all options are on the table but stopped short of issuing you will at this mate um. released report accusing cyclist lance armstrong of using performance enhancing drugs. his fall from grace cost him his 7 tour de france titles. >>> jerry sandusky. >>> devastation in the northeast as super storm sandy slammed into the coast. the storm caused the heaviest damage in parts of new yo
. >>> a week later, hosted democrat convention and president obama invites president biden for re-election. >>> on september 11th, gunman killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three others. >> they had a mission and they believed in it. they knew the danger and they accepted it. >> u.s. ambassador to the un susan rice used talking points to tie the violence over an american made antiislam film. the attack later linked to terrorism and some accused the...
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we know what happened with the election. but what else is going to be happening? >> first of all, boehner and mr. obama were not the right two to be negotiating because the scorpio and the lion exactly 90 degrees apart is a square. >> they shouldn't get married? >> i think it was good they brought in some other players. >> not a political marriage? >> because they communicate better, different people. i think that was good. mrs. clinton, a scorpio is at a low ebb with their help. i have been writing that. we're all going to say prayers for her. she's w hard. she can come through it and she's in the best hand. >> let's do genericically relationships. >> we've all been texting too much. now neptune moved into pisces and we're going to want to see each other more. touchy feely. last time neptune was in pisces was 169 years ago. >> we're all going to be mushy and public displays of affection? >> we won't go extreme but it sounds like you don't like that because you're a libra. but seeing each other more is a good thing. >> texting does tend to -- i like it better than
we know what happened with the election. but what else is going to be happening? >> first of all, boehner and mr. obama were not the right two to be negotiating because the scorpio and the lion exactly 90 degrees apart is a square. >> they shouldn't get married? >> i think it was good they brought in some other players. >> not a political marriage? >> because they communicate better, different people. i think that was good. mrs. clinton, a scorpio is at a low ebb...
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. >>> why don't we start with the sor story of the year, barack obama wins, republicans lose in a way that perhaps is more telling than just what one election result might suggest. >> well, i think it certainly does. it difference him a certain platform and credibility perhaps he didn't have before. watching as these fiscal cliff negotiations have gone through the holidays, it certainly is more perhaps a little bit more bully pulpit for the president and his position on taxes. the biggest story of the year came at the end of the year in the past week or so, the massacred sandy hook elementary in newtown and i think the presidency now might be shaped by those events. those are the stories barnicle and andrea have chosen as the top stories of 2012 to cover. >> mike barnicle, would you agree this could be a signature of a second term. >> i do agree with that. i think the events a few days ago of newtown in connecticut will help shape the president's second term in office and gives us huge impetus of change in this country that have taken too long to take hold. i think to the presidency h
. >>> why don't we start with the sor story of the year, barack obama wins, republicans lose in a way that perhaps is more telling than just what one election result might suggest. >> well, i think it certainly does. it difference him a certain platform and credibility perhaps he didn't have before. watching as these fiscal cliff negotiations have gone through the holidays, it certainly is more perhaps a little bit more bully pulpit for the president and his position on taxes....
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and of course, president obama won ohio. middle class americans across this country stood in long lines to cast a vote for the candidate who would help them the most. they ignored the republican threats about a failing economy. the republicans wanted to kill organized labor. in 2012, they may have given it new life instead. here is someone who has been with us all year long covering worker's issues. joining me tonight, john nicoles, of the "washington correspondent" magazine. john, has labor been emboldened by the victory, and has there been a new stage set for what they can accomplish? >> i think so. i think labor changed over the last year and a half. and especially over the last year. one of the things is that it is safe to say that a lot of unions, not all of them, but a lot were on auto pilot. they had a sense of how politics worked. and a sense of how government worked and they fit into that. what happened in wisconsin and ohio in 2011 forced unions to start to re-think, to start to recognize that there really were pow
and of course, president obama won ohio. middle class americans across this country stood in long lines to cast a vote for the candidate who would help them the most. they ignored the republican threats about a failing economy. the republicans wanted to kill organized labor. in 2012, they may have given it new life instead. here is someone who has been with us all year long covering worker's issues. joining me tonight, john nicoles, of the "washington correspondent" magazine. john,...
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this election was not decided on foreign policy, but romney tried real hard to say barack obama was weak and didn't know anything about national security and the american public didn't fall for that neo-con bait. >> the only way to get his kid in uniform is to photo shop. he wasn't exactly mr. military, anyway. thank you, david corn and happy new year. coming up, the best of campaign 1, think of this as a football highlight show after the big game. 47%. the first debate, we'll go over all the hits and misses with some very smart observers. and we have the annual list of the most notable quotes of the year. the list is full of bloopers like legitimate rape and etch-a-sketch. here's one from rush, democrats manipulated the weather forecast in tampa so that the republicans would cancel the first day of their convention. and that's not the nuttiest. let me finish on whether we thought this was a good year for america. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> it's time for the "hardball" campaign 2012: the now infamous call to donors. we had 20 republican debates. it was absolutely nut
this election was not decided on foreign policy, but romney tried real hard to say barack obama was weak and didn't know anything about national security and the american public didn't fall for that neo-con bait. >> the only way to get his kid in uniform is to photo shop. he wasn't exactly mr. military, anyway. thank you, david corn and happy new year. coming up, the best of campaign 1, think of this as a football highlight show after the big game. 47%. the first debate, we'll go over all...
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the staff wanted to make the election a referendum on president obama's handling of the economy and make it all about the incumbent. the family said well no, we want to tell mitt's story, the father, businessman, governor. that tension was always there. we found out there was a documentary that was made about romney from the '08 campaign that the family liked and the staff killed. it still hasn't to this day ever been seen that showed more of mitt the man behind the scenes. >> warner: but that was because at least the strategists were concerned they didn't want to make much of his mormonism. >> that's right. the other issue with mitt romney is the more you exposed him early on in the campaign to regular people, and normal organic situations, the worse he seemed to do. so there was this odd paradox with mitt romney the candidate as he needed to make himself more human. yet every opportunity they gave for him to do so, 47%, the video being one of them, made things worse. >> warner: what was the hangup about talking about, as they did very effectively during the convention, about what he ha
the staff wanted to make the election a referendum on president obama's handling of the economy and make it all about the incumbent. the family said well no, we want to tell mitt's story, the father, businessman, governor. that tension was always there. we found out there was a documentary that was made about romney from the '08 campaign that the family liked and the staff killed. it still hasn't to this day ever been seen that showed more of mitt the man behind the scenes. >> warner: but...
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mike mentioned ed that the house, a lot of them got reelected, a lot got elected to spending not the raise taxes. the house is still controlled by republicans so when president obama has his talk about campaigning and run and getting a mandate on raising taxes on the upper tier, these republicans fight back with their own o individual races. >> no doubt about it. and that is why we had this clash. you will remember that right after the election i remember full well that these negotiations which started with the president and speaker boehner, they are are ending now with senator mcconnell and vice president biden but within days aft election speaker boehner sent a letter to the president of the united states saying we just had a status quo election. that was from the speaker. inside the white house they didn't believe it was a status quo election. they believe the president won decisively and did get the mandate. house republicans believe they had a mandate to cut spending and the president believed he had a mandate to raise taxes. they will have the same clash two months from now. no
mike mentioned ed that the house, a lot of them got reelected, a lot got elected to spending not the raise taxes. the house is still controlled by republicans so when president obama has his talk about campaigning and run and getting a mandate on raising taxes on the upper tier, these republicans fight back with their own o individual races. >> no doubt about it. and that is why we had this clash. you will remember that right after the election i remember full well that these negotiations...
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and again, that is something that right after the election and well into december obama said he was going to insist on a permanent end to the debt ceiling. that was going to be part of this deal. he insisted on it. he backed off and indicated through the negotiations that he would be okay with a two-year patch. and now it is not even in there at all. it is very clear we'll have a showdown similar to this in about a month when we hit the debt expiration, except in a month, republicans will -- excuse me, democrats and obama will not have the kind of leverage that the automatic expiration that the bush tax cuts gave them. it is a discouragement that they can be em boldened, how they can move president obama, and the fact he won the election on the fact he would move the taxes, on 250,000 plus. >> i agree with steve on that, those are the two big numbers, going up from 250 to 400, for singles, 450 for couples, i have to say i personally like this deal more than the other, that included social security benefit cuts. that was not included. and i think the white house may have concluded that a,
and again, that is something that right after the election and well into december obama said he was going to insist on a permanent end to the debt ceiling. that was going to be part of this deal. he insisted on it. he backed off and indicated through the negotiations that he would be okay with a two-year patch. and now it is not even in there at all. it is very clear we'll have a showdown similar to this in about a month when we hit the debt expiration, except in a month, republicans will --...
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an opportunity to nail president obama on benghazi and bring it home and win an election and he chose not to. he chose to play it safe. to me, that was the turning point. he got bad advice. somebody said you know what? don't do this. or he had knowledge of what was going on, because he was given the knowledge by the white house so he felt compelled to keep it secret. the other thing, too, his son said mitt didn't want to be president. that is tragic to me. it might have meant that mitt would have been a good president. >> juan: do you think it's true? >> greg: people who don't want to be president the end to be good president -- tend to be good presidents. >> andrea: washington turned down power of king. >> eric: i disagree. it's such a demanding job -- >> greg: but to say, conservatives by nature do not like government. natural inclination not to want to be in charge. >> eric: let me add something to the story. mitt romney blowing it in the last debate, candy crowley. second? second. misinformed, oh, yeah, president obama mentioned it. he wasn't prepared. >> he held back. >> eric: th
an opportunity to nail president obama on benghazi and bring it home and win an election and he chose not to. he chose to play it safe. to me, that was the turning point. he got bad advice. somebody said you know what? don't do this. or he had knowledge of what was going on, because he was given the knowledge by the white house so he felt compelled to keep it secret. the other thing, too, his son said mitt didn't want to be president. that is tragic to me. it might have meant that mitt would...
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>> start with my low light i was originally going to say election of barack obama. i think it's unfair. then i was going to say the nomination of mitt romney. i think that's unfair. the entire movable feast horror show that was the republican nominating process. the primaries, the iowa caucuses, all the way through the ends up compounding a lot of the g.o.p.'s problems. >> bret: there were five really good debates. [ laughter ] >> bret: in there. i don't know which ones but there were at least five. >> out of 1700 debates and then i started thinking of what is something we can all sort of truly agree on. mark twain once said that the reason why we rejoice at weddings and cry at funerals is because we're not the person involved. i will be a little bit more upbeat and say that the one unifying highlight was that the myians were proven wrong about the end of the world. and i know that's low hanging fruit, but if you look back on 2012 it was a really awful awful year in so many ways from sandy hook on down. at least we can all agree that a fiery consumption of the plane
>> start with my low light i was originally going to say election of barack obama. i think it's unfair. then i was going to say the nomination of mitt romney. i think that's unfair. the entire movable feast horror show that was the republican nominating process. the primaries, the iowa caucuses, all the way through the ends up compounding a lot of the g.o.p.'s problems. >> bret: there were five really good debates. [ laughter ] >> bret: in there. i don't know which ones but...
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the staff wanted to make the election a referendum on president obama's handling of the economy and make it all about the incumbent. the family said well no we want to tell mitt's story the father, businessman governor. that tension was always there. we found out there was a documentary that was made about romney from the '08 campaign that the family liked and the staff killed. it still hasn't to this day ever been seen that showed more of mitt the man behind the scenes. >> warner: but that was because at least the strategists were concerned they didn't want to make much of his mormonism. >> that's right. the other issue with mitt romney is the more you exposed him early on in the campaign to regular people, and normal organic situations, the worse he seemed to do. so there was this odd paradox with mitt romney the candidate as he needed to make himself more human. yet every opportunity they gave for him to do so 47% the video being one of them made things worse. >> warner: what was the hangup about talking about as they did very effectively during the convention about what he had done f
the staff wanted to make the election a referendum on president obama's handling of the economy and make it all about the incumbent. the family said well no we want to tell mitt's story the father, businessman governor. that tension was always there. we found out there was a documentary that was made about romney from the '08 campaign that the family liked and the staff killed. it still hasn't to this day ever been seen that showed more of mitt the man behind the scenes. >> warner: but...
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ford has indicated, but the truth is obama is as progressive a figure who has the chance of being elected in america. friedrich engels will not be the secretary of labor and mark will not be the secretary of the treasury. >> he is the more effective evil because he is able, being a democrat, to accomplish more of that right-wing agenda, and republican ever could. george bush tried to privatize social security. he cut his worst domestic defeat of his term in so doing, and the republican were reeling from that, even in 2009. it took barack obama to introduce a model for austerity. >> 29,000 public school teachers and support staff have gone on strike after union leaders failed to reach an agreement with the nation's third largest school district over education reforms sought by chicago mayor rahm emanuel. >> we will walk the picket lines, we will talk to parents, clergy, we will demand a fair contract today. we demand a fair contract now. >> the protests in yemen and egypt on the tuesday night's storming of the u.s. consulate in benghazi. u.s. ambassador christopher stevens and three other
ford has indicated, but the truth is obama is as progressive a figure who has the chance of being elected in america. friedrich engels will not be the secretary of labor and mark will not be the secretary of the treasury. >> he is the more effective evil because he is able, being a democrat, to accomplish more of that right-wing agenda, and republican ever could. george bush tried to privatize social security. he cut his worst domestic defeat of his term in so doing, and the republican...
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only 15 of them from congressional districts obama won. in 2014, 14 senators will be -- will go up for re-election. 13 of them will stay and -- 12 of them in states obama did not win and like we have 2 different parallel sort of universes trying to talk to each other and republicans don't really need and are not incented to work with obama because they're coming from constituency that is don't like him, won't vote for him. why not fight against him because that's good for them? >> well, i tell you what. guys like john boehner see that and they see a trend where their base shrinks and gets smaller and smaller and smaller. eventually they will be the minority party. they don't want that to happen. they can look at the polls and where it says most of the country favors raising taxes on the rich and the positions that obama was pushing during the campaign, otherwise he wouldn't have won. they know it's a problem and don't want to be relegated to the party of white guys in the south. >> that's a national issue. >> correct. >> that's not a local
only 15 of them from congressional districts obama won. in 2014, 14 senators will be -- will go up for re-election. 13 of them will stay and -- 12 of them in states obama did not win and like we have 2 different parallel sort of universes trying to talk to each other and republicans don't really need and are not incented to work with obama because they're coming from constituency that is don't like him, won't vote for him. why not fight against him because that's good for them? >> well, i...
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that doesn't ever have to worry about being re-elected. this is two terms, and he is done. how different are they from democrats in the house and senate who still retain a majority? do you see -- you obviously wrote an outstanding book about bill clinton and how he used the democratic congress to sort of position himself in the middle and them on the left. do we expect something like that, obama, the deal maker, obama the praying mattist, to use democrats in the congress in that way, or not? >> i don't see their incentives as being that much different. i do think that president obama, the leader of the democratic party, really has the leverage. i don't -- i expect that if there is a deal, that democrats don't like, you'll hear grumbling from the democrats, but i would be very surprised if you hear outright revolt. what democrats in congress want is more money. that's what president obama is facing. a full second term of under very constrained circumstances. he wants more rev new. i think he also wants, as much as he feels like he has that sword over republicans, the fact is
that doesn't ever have to worry about being re-elected. this is two terms, and he is done. how different are they from democrats in the house and senate who still retain a majority? do you see -- you obviously wrote an outstanding book about bill clinton and how he used the democratic congress to sort of position himself in the middle and them on the left. do we expect something like that, obama, the deal maker, obama the praying mattist, to use democrats in the congress in that way, or not?...
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we elected, we reelected president obama because he wanted him to go on a path forward but it's not happening. you, and i think if the markets crash, it will scare a lot of people and i think and taxes will go up. i think they will point at both sides. a big problem for both parties. jon: alexis, harry truman had the famous buck stops here sign on his desk. should president obama get that out of the smithsonian or wherever it resides and take responsibility himself? >> i think the president has been showing a lot of leadership around this. i think that with the american people are going to do, if they are going to look at this in a much larger context. since the president has been in office the house republicans in particular, have been trying to hang the economy and budget deficit and around the president's neck. instead of trying to lead and figure out how to grow the economy and build a better opportunity for all americans. and so i think it is not just about the buck stopping with the president. i think president is doing all he can to really push, push the senate and the house republican
we elected, we reelected president obama because he wanted him to go on a path forward but it's not happening. you, and i think if the markets crash, it will scare a lot of people and i think and taxes will go up. i think they will point at both sides. a big problem for both parties. jon: alexis, harry truman had the famous buck stops here sign on his desk. should president obama get that out of the smithsonian or wherever it resides and take responsibility himself? >> i think the...
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. >> there goes the invisible obama. we have that chair there. that was a funny account. that was opened just within that same night. there's also this photo that was tweeted out by the president on election night. you remember. it became the most retweeted photo of all time. >> that's right. you know, i think what's interesting to look forward to -- or maybe not look forward to -- is we saw so many events in the 2012 cycle that were the most retweeted or the highest volume. that's because the reality is that because all we talk about nowadays is twitter. twitter is relatively new, and people are joining on-line en masse every single day. all the records we saw this year in 2012, that photo being top among them, i imagine they will all be eclipsed in 2016 as more and more people come on board. >> we have 2014 ahead of us as well. what do you make of that? what might we see when it comes to social media? >> i think it all really goes to show that nothing can go escaped, and you can't make any errors. maybe there was a day before the internet in which perhaps maybe a report
. >> there goes the invisible obama. we have that chair there. that was a funny account. that was opened just within that same night. there's also this photo that was tweeted out by the president on election night. you remember. it became the most retweeted photo of all time. >> that's right. you know, i think what's interesting to look forward to -- or maybe not look forward to -- is we saw so many events in the 2012 cycle that were the most retweeted or the highest volume. that's...
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they were elected by margins bigger than obama's. they are going to hold on to those margins by voting their conscience and their constituents' desires. stuart: you think over the longer term some of the blame will start transferring to the president. what's long-term? >> as soon as we start feeling it in our pocketbooks. stuart: you will tomorrow morning. >> that's right. so, you know, people have been arguing it may not be the end of the world to go over the fiscal cliff. the end of the world is looming. the fiscal cliff is really just a road sign that's telling us we have this disaster coming down the pike. we keep on pushing it away. i'm a little bit glad for all this over the fiscal cliff, because we need to be afraid. we need to be afraid. it's all out of proportion. stuart: when do we run out of time? i accept the expression kicking the can. i understand thht. how long can we do this for? give me a time frame. >> we have passed the time. in other words, at this point, it is just doing damage control. i don't mean damage contro
they were elected by margins bigger than obama's. they are going to hold on to those margins by voting their conscience and their constituents' desires. stuart: you think over the longer term some of the blame will start transferring to the president. what's long-term? >> as soon as we start feeling it in our pocketbooks. stuart: you will tomorrow morning. >> that's right. so, you know, people have been arguing it may not be the end of the world to go over the fiscal cliff. the end...
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it was when barack obama got elected that the republicans followed mitch mcconnell's declaration that defeating the president was his number one agenda item. deadlock came in when the american people decided, as they have obviously every right to do, that they didn't like the people they voted for in 2008, and we're going to vote for diametrically opposed people in 2010. but if you look before that happened, before 2011, you've got a pretty functional system. the problem is not structural. it's who the people are. i do believe that as a result of the 2012 election, some of those who were elected who really don't believe in governance, are losing their ability to screw things up. >> mr. congressman, i know we'll have you back again. but it will be as a participant in the private sector debate. congratulations on everything. happy new year. >> thank you. >> congressman barney frank from washington. >> possibly as an author. his plans are to write a book. that should be interesting. let's check in with rick santelli in chicago. morning, rick. >> good morning, melissa lee. the treasury ma
it was when barack obama got elected that the republicans followed mitch mcconnell's declaration that defeating the president was his number one agenda item. deadlock came in when the american people decided, as they have obviously every right to do, that they didn't like the people they voted for in 2008, and we're going to vote for diametrically opposed people in 2010. but if you look before that happened, before 2011, you've got a pretty functional system. the problem is not structural. it's...
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president obama and speaker boehner met one on one. nothing happened. the speaker offered plan "b," never got enough support within his own party. here we are all over again. do we have tom coburn? joining us now from capitol hill, republican senator from oklahoma, senator tom coburn. senator, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> so, why, first of all, does this deadline tonight matter? and i heard you make comments yesterday out on the streets of washington to a reporter that you think we're going to go over the cliff? >> i do. >> okay. >> i do. let me take issue with a couple of things you said. >> okay. >> number one is we haven't cut the first penny yet from the federal government, and it's important people know that. what happened in that agreement is $1 trillion in increased expenditures didn't happen. >> okay. >> all right? and now that we're down to the hard work of actually trimming some of the waste out of the federal government, nobody wants to do that. and so, we're in trouble because we have a set of elite career politicians that
president obama and speaker boehner met one on one. nothing happened. the speaker offered plan "b," never got enough support within his own party. here we are all over again. do we have tom coburn? joining us now from capitol hill, republican senator from oklahoma, senator tom coburn. senator, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> so, why, first of all, does this deadline tonight matter? and i heard you make comments yesterday out on the streets of washington to...
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americans elected president obama to lead, not to cast blame. the president's comments today are ironic, as a recurring theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anything that would require him to stand up to his own party. the president, of course, saying he has offered concessions. he's offered over $1 trillion in additional spending cuts. what am i missing here? because it seems like he's up against a wall. >> yeah, some of those cuts, though, are kind of already were on the table. there were cuts, for example, in defense spending, you know, because we're not at war anymore. we're not necessarily -- you know, those trillion dollars are a little bit suspect for a lot of republicans. and i think ultimately the president is sitting there very, i think, disingenuously, you know, touting what he was able to do when he left on the table, quite frankly, mika, the one thing that could have been the real solution, the real framework to avoid all this, which was simpson-bowles. i'd still get back to that reality that this president fa
americans elected president obama to lead, not to cast blame. the president's comments today are ironic, as a recurring theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anything that would require him to stand up to his own party. the president, of course, saying he has offered concessions. he's offered over $1 trillion in additional spending cuts. what am i missing here? because it seems like he's up against a wall. >> yeah, some of those cuts, though, are kind of already were...
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they've had a brain freeze since the election. they have no strategy. you don't know what they want. they haven't decided what they want. if i default president obama, i would say sometimes he governs like a visitor from a superior civilization. he comes in here and he'll talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. boehner actually made a pretty serious concession, $800 billion in tax revenues. probably willing to go up on rates. but the trust wasn't there to get that done. and if the president wants to get stuff done over the next four years, it's got to be a lot more than making the intellectual concessions. it's got to get to the place where republicans say okay, we'll take a risk. this guy won't screw us. they do not feel that right now. >> chuck, just your reading of the immediate news that's going to be made over the course of today and tomorrow, again, what i think is significant, the president saying we either get this deal now or we'll go over the cliff, we'll come back right after the 1st of the year
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the house was elected to protect the united states of additional obama care spipe types of spending . from the perspective it is it a char aid. he wants to raise tax for people with over $200,000 . patti murray tipped the president's hand when she said it is okay to go off the fiscal cliff . we get credit when we cut taxing back to the level they were before the cliff . it is it a political issue for them to attain their goalings. >> dave: some suggest that the president will be okay to go off the fiscal cliff . the president doesn't want sequestitration to go in into affect. hope they work it out. thank you for joining us from dc. coming up. unbelievably video of a plane crashed on a busy highway . we now know what likely caused the deadly crash . go ahead and down that champagne in the new year's bash. but what you can do today to make sure you don't have a hang over tomorrow. may attention. there's the sign to the bullpen. here he comes. you wouldn't want your doctor doing your job, the pitch! whoa! so why are you doing his? only yr doctor can determine if your persistent heartburn
the house was elected to protect the united states of additional obama care spipe types of spending . from the perspective it is it a char aid. he wants to raise tax for people with over $200,000 . patti murray tipped the president's hand when she said it is okay to go off the fiscal cliff . we get credit when we cut taxing back to the level they were before the cliff . it is it a political issue for them to attain their goalings. >> dave: some suggest that the president will be okay to...
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, their feeling has been, president obama won, we will not take this out of seniors, we will not take it out of medicare, we will not take it out of social security. no cuts, and those things and that position has hardened, i think on the left in the past couple of mo couple of months. >> chris: you are a believer, kirsten, that obama won and, gets the tax rate increases. on the other hand, you do have another deadline coming in about two months, according to timothy geithner and that is the increase in the debt ceiling and at that point, it would seem to me the republicans hold most of the leverage, because they can at least threaten to send the country into default unless there are serious and main spending cuts. at that point does this obama victory perhaps look a little different? >> well, i mean, i think the question is, are they really going to want to do what they did last time with the debt ceiling, which ultimately caused us to have a downgrade of our economy. do they want to do that again? i think it is a bit of bluffing. i don't think they really want to do that. in terms o
, their feeling has been, president obama won, we will not take this out of seniors, we will not take it out of medicare, we will not take it out of social security. no cuts, and those things and that position has hardened, i think on the left in the past couple of mo couple of months. >> chris: you are a believer, kirsten, that obama won and, gets the tax rate increases. on the other hand, you do have another deadline coming in about two months, according to timothy geithner and that is...
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. >> cnn projects that barack obama will be re-elected president of the united states. >> we are greater than the sum of our individual ambitions and we remain more than a collection of red states and blue states. we a we are and forever will be the united states of america. >> cue the confetti and say good by to 2012 in all its moments, historical and hysterical. candy crowley, cnn, washington. >> civil unrest, a new dictator and a teen who took on the taliban are among our top ten international stories of 2012. here is cnn's zain verjee. >> can you believe it is already the end of the year? actually the mayan calendar said it would be the end of the world but oh, my goodness we're still here. so many important stories from 2012, conflict, hopelessness, inspiration sw hope. we also made sure we had a little bit of fun. take a look. >> welcome to london. >> queen of england celebrated her diamond jubilee year. it rained on her floatilla parade but at any time take the sparkle out of the magic moments. millions more tuned in for this famous wave. number nine, september 11th in benghazi, l
. >> cnn projects that barack obama will be re-elected president of the united states. >> we are greater than the sum of our individual ambitions and we remain more than a collection of red states and blue states. we a we are and forever will be the united states of america. >> cue the confetti and say good by to 2012 in all its moments, historical and hysterical. candy crowley, cnn, washington. >> civil unrest, a new dictator and a teen who took on the taliban are among...
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the beginning and rarely got-- >> you're wrong, the election wasn't fought on the economy. >> no, it wasn't. >> a lot of people wants to know what happens with the heated debates off camera and we do. the answer is yes. we have taken heated debates through the commercial debates and into the next block and as we walk out the door back to our offices. >> i've got bruises on my le legs. >> you seem to like it. >> and tomorrow night on "the five" a special evening as we countdown to 2013, don't miss our new year's eve special at 5 p.m. and on again at 1 p.m. eastern and again, the fox news channel's all american new year's eve special kicks off with megyn kelly and bill hemmer and i got roped in as well. we'll be reporting live, pray for us, from times square. coming up, president obama made a rare appearance on a sunday talk show this morning and answered questions on his second term, benghazi and his plans to regulate guns. you're going to hear from the president when we come back, stay with us. >> it's unusual. ♪ [ cheeping ] [ male announcer ] you hear that? that's the sound of ca
the beginning and rarely got-- >> you're wrong, the election wasn't fought on the economy. >> no, it wasn't. >> a lot of people wants to know what happens with the heated debates off camera and we do. the answer is yes. we have taken heated debates through the commercial debates and into the next block and as we walk out the door back to our offices. >> i've got bruises on my le legs. >> you seem to like it. >> and tomorrow night on "the five" a...
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they've had a brain freeze since the election. they have no strategy. they don't know what they want, and they haven't decided what they want. but if i had to fault president obama, i would say sometimes he has governed like a visitor from a morally superior civilization. he comes in here, and he will not -- he'll talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built their trust. boehner actually made a pretty serious concession, $800 billion in tax revenues. probably willing to go up on rates. but the trust wasn't there to get that done. if the president wants to get stuff done over the next four years, it's got to be a lot more than making the intellectual concessions. it's got to get to the place where republicans say, ok, we'll take a risk. this guy won't screw us. they don't feel that right now. >> chuck, just your reading of the immediate news that's going to be made over the course of today and tomorrow, again, what i think is significant, the president is saying we either get this deal now, or we'll go over the cliff. we'l
they've had a brain freeze since the election. they have no strategy. they don't know what they want, and they haven't decided what they want. but if i had to fault president obama, i would say sometimes he has governed like a visitor from a morally superior civilization. he comes in here, and he will not -- he'll talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built their trust. boehner actually made a pretty serious concession, $800 billion in tax revenues. probably...